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&lt;p&gt;Who knows what ambitions he had at that age, but it&amp;#39;s fair to say that the last thing on his mind would be to look ahead to the distant future and a critical club board meeting in the industrial town of Gelsenkirchen with his job on the line after having presided over a humiliating 5-0 defeat to a newly promoted side.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Magath&amp;#39;s career as a coach has not been a complete success. However, after shortish early spells at Hamburg, Nuremberg, Werder Bremen and Eintracht Frankfurt, a decent showing at Stuttgart gave him the chance to take the biggest job in Germany at Bayern Munich. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Despite delivering a domestic double twice, his apparent lack of progress on the continental stage was deemed insufficient for&amp;nbsp; a club of FC Bayern&amp;#39;s stature. Magath&amp;#39;s reputation for being a strict disciplinarian has not made him the most popular individual in some quarters. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;He moved to Wolfsburg, where he led the rather anonymous Volkswagen-owned club to an incredible title win. This earned him a shot at the one of the toughest jobs in the Bundesliga but potentially the most rewarding: coaching FC Schalke 04.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The announcement of Magath&amp;#39;s appointment sent shockwaves through German football, not because of the appointment itself but the timing of the announcement, before the end of the 2008/09 season, while still at Wolfsburg and with the title race in the balance. The powers that be at Die Wolfe were not happy about the way the transition was handled and chose to announce Magath&amp;#39;s departure before it had actually happened.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The controversy didn&amp;#39;t affect the team&amp;#39;s path to the Bundesliga title, inspired by the goals of Grafite and Dzeko. Amidst a shower of Wolfsburg&amp;#39;s official beer, Magath was sent to the industrial heartland and to that huge stadium that looks down on the city of Gelsenkirchen like a giant cathedral.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://cms.442.haymarketnetwork.com/contentimages/blog/MagathGrafiteWolfsburgbeer1.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Grafite soaks Magath, but the gaffer was on his way &lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;Once he arrived and presumably had a chance to look at the books, Magath began to play down Schalke&amp;#39;s chances of winning the Bundesliga anytime soon. The club has spent great deal of money supporting a succession of coaches and had accumulated a large squad and a massive wage bill. Club debts were on the verge of crippling the club. Cutbacks would have to be made and the transition may not be a smooth one. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, last season, with the squad he had inherited, Magath orchestrated a title challenge that saw the club lose out to Bayern and finish as runners-up. With Marcelo Bordon and Heiko Westermann at the back and a revitalised Kevin Kuranyi up front, Schalke played an unspectacular but extremely effective brand of football. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The unexpected outcome fuelled expectations but unfortunately, for the Gelsenkirchen club, Magath was compelled to ship out many of his high earners and radically reshape the first team. Out went Kuranyi, Westermann, Bordon and Rafinha plus mainstay squad members such as Gerard Asamoah and Carlos Zambrano. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;While the squad (and presumably the wage bill) was trimmed, Magath did not shirk from spending big in the transfer market –&amp;nbsp;to the tune of about £24m.&amp;nbsp; Attacking midfielder Jose Manuel Jurado was brought in from Europa League winners Atletico Madrid along with Klaas-Jan Huntelaar from Atleti&amp;#39;s neighbours Real.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then, of course, there was Raul who arrived having finished his spell at Real Madrid. Excitement at the arrival of the Spanish legend had reached fever pitch, but the outcome has made for a disastrous first half of the Bundesliga season – culminating in the aforementioned 5-0 defeat to newly promoted Kaiserslautern.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://cms.442.haymarketnetwork.com/contentimages/blog/JuradoRaulHuntelaarSchalke.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Let&amp;#39;s work together: Jurado, Raul, Huntelaar (and an arm)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;With half of their Bundesliga games consigned to the defeat column and a baying crowd of fanatical supporters literally turning their back on the team, a weary Magath was brought before the board this week to explain himself. Whatever he said, it worked: the board voted to keep him at the club, presumably on the basis that he got them into this mess so he can bloody well get them out of it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s not all bad though. Two wins in the last five (albeit to the struggling St Pauli and abject Werder Bremen) suggested that before the last weekend at least, a corner had been turned. And the club have successfully negotiated their way into the Second Round if the Champions League. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The triad of Jurado, Raul and Huntelaar are showing signs of improvement, with the latter taking to the Bundesliga like a duck to water. Jefferson Farfan is having a good season too. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But Magath still has it all to do if Schalke are to meet the expectations of their vociferous support at the Veltins Arena. Already the winter break has been shortened and the players will have to return early after Christmas in the hope that they can reboot their season and pull away from the bottom four. The Bundesliga is sufficiently fluid that a rise up the table to a Europa League spot is not completely out of the question.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Tomorrow they have to return to their home crowd and face not only their disgruntled fans but a resurgent Bayern Munich. 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The home side are locked at 1-1 with last season&amp;#39;s Bundesliga runners-up, Schalke. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;With the ball at his feet, Hamburg&amp;#39;s Ze Roberto charges from the left flank into the opposition penalty area. Head back, chest puffed out, in full flow, you can see the whites of his eye flicker as he looks up to spot the run of Ruud van Nistelrooy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Brazilian midfielder-slash-wingback&amp;#39;s cross is inch-perfect and Van Nisterooy&amp;#39;s run is perfectly timed. He cannot miss, Hamburg retake the lead and wrestle three points away from a dogged ten-man Schalke side.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;object height="377" width="469"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/qCYVzj_q5mY?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/qCYVzj_q5mY?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="377" width="469"&gt;&lt;/object&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ze Roberto&amp;#39;s assist (the first of seven so far this season) is typical of the man. He is the archetypal selfless runner who seems to derive as much pleasure creating a goal as scoring one. He plays like he knows that when a great goal is scored it is merely an end of a flowing movement – the final chord of a beautiful composition.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wherever he plays on the pitch (and that could be pretty much anywhere) he is easily distinguishable by his explosive pace, intelligent running and reliable crosses. To watch him could be to mistake him for a player in his twenties. Only his face reveals a man who has charged headlong into northern European winters for over a decade.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;object height="377" width="469"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-PyFe_tkk9M?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-PyFe_tkk9M?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="377" width="469"&gt;&lt;/object&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jose Roberto da Silva Jr began his Bundesliga career in 1998 at Bayer Leverkusen. He was part of the 2002 squad that progressed to the Champions League final (which he missed through suspension) against his old club Real Madrid under coach Klaus Toppmoller. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That same season, Leverkusen also came within a whisker of winning the Bundesliga but lost out by one point to Borussia Dortmund, hence the well-earned unofficial nickname Neverkusen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, the club Ze Roberto is best associated with is probably Bayern Munich, where he was a double winner thrice in his first spell and again upon his return in 2007, after a sabbatical back in Brazil with Santos.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;object height="385" width="480"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/zW_-dONGrus?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zW_-dONGrus?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="385" width="480"&gt;&lt;/object&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At 35, in the summer of 2009 he was deemed surplus to requirements at Bayern Munich by incoming coach Louis van Gaal – a decision the Dutchman later regretted. Hamburg wasted no time in signing the former Brazil international and he took his place in coach Bruno Labaddia&amp;#39;s team, either on the flank or through the middle. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For a while it looked like HSV were the real deal and would become genuine title challengers. They notched up impressive wins against Bayern and their bitter local rivals Werder Bremen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, as the pressure mounted, the wheels fell off. Hamburg missed out on a place in the Europa League final (held at their very own stadium) and failed to qualify for Europe competition via the league. Labaddia didn&amp;#39;t even make it to the end of the campaign, sacked as he was in between the two legs of the Europa League semi-final against Fulham.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This season, former Stuttgart and Wolfsburg coach Armin Veh has been given the task of delivering the Bundesliga title to the ambitious but underachieving northern club. While results so far have been have been patchy, at least one man&amp;#39;s form has been consistent. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;object height="377" width="469"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/sxjUhwrbS_Q?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;start=276"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/sxjUhwrbS_Q?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;start=276" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="377" width="469"&gt;&lt;/object&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ze Roberto set up Paulo Guerrero&amp;#39;s strike that condemned early pacesetters Mainz to their first defeat of the season, and his pinpoint centre to Mladen Petric last Saturday sealed an excellent win against Hoffenheim, their first three points since mid-October.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;object height="289" width="469"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/g2Z2jvyfjko?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;start=146"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/g2Z2jvyfjko?fs=1&amp;amp;hl=en_US&amp;amp;start=146" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" height="289" width="469"&gt;&lt;/object&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Inevitably, questions will arise at the end of the season as to whether the two-time Copa America winner will return to Brazil or stay in the Bundesliga for another campaign. Part of the joy of watching him is that he plays each game like it is his last. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At present, however, Hamburg will be grateful to have his energy, enthusiasm and skill ahead of their visit to Bundesliga leaders Borussia Dortmund on Friday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://fourfourtwo.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=50524" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Bayer+Leverkusen/default.aspx">Bayer Leverkusen</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Bayern+Munich/default.aspx">Bayern Munich</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Louis+van+Gaal/default.aspx">Louis van Gaal</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Hamburg/default.aspx">Hamburg</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Werder+Bremen/default.aspx">Werder Bremen</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Real+Madrid/default.aspx">Real Madrid</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Fulham/default.aspx">Fulham</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Santos/default.aspx">Santos</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Brazil/default.aspx">Brazil</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Bruno+Labaddia/default.aspx">Bruno Labaddia</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Ruud+van+Nistelrooy/default.aspx">Ruud van Nistelrooy</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Ze+Roberto/default.aspx">Ze Roberto</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Borussia+Dortmund/default.aspx">Borussia Dortmund</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Klaus+Toppmoller/default.aspx">Klaus Toppmoller</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Mladen+Petric/default.aspx">Mladen Petric</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Schalke/default.aspx">Schalke</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Hoffenheim/default.aspx">Hoffenheim</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Mainz/default.aspx">Mainz</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Paulo+Guerrero/default.aspx">Paulo Guerrero</category><category domain="http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/thefundesliga/archive/tags/Armin+Veh/default.aspx">Armin Veh</category></item></channel></rss>