FourFourTwo Podcast, Episode #20: How Barcelona and Real Madrid can rule Europe again

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It’s a pretty big rivalry – you might have heard of it. They call it El Clasico.

Right now, the two sides are facing a crisis in their own way: neither side won the Champions League last season for the first time in six years.

So how do they get back on top in Europe? Conor Pope talks to Andy Murray, who has written a blueprint for Barca and Real success in the new issue of FourFourTwo.

There's no Clasico match this weekend, even though there should be. Colin Millar, author of The Frying Pan of Spain – a history of the Seville derby – and editor of Football Espana, explains why that is... and what other political shenanigans are going on in the Spanish league.

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Autumn 2019

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