View that Glazers are perfect gaining worrying currency
HereâÂÂs an extract from an interview with the award winning journalist Martin Samuel from the current edition of United We Stand.
âÂÂI accept all the issues that people have with the Glazers, but the football has been superb while they have been in charge. They have said: âÂÂWhatever the Scottish bloke wants, just say yes,â ItâÂÂs not a bad way to run a football club because he knows whatâÂÂs best. Whatever Fergie wants, they do. I like that.âÂÂ
But the clubâÂÂs ã645 million in debtâ¦
âÂÂAnd? ThatâÂÂs business. ThatâÂÂs for the boardroom. Are we transforming into a new breed of football fans who want to look at balance sheets? What are we, accountants?
"Some fans wander around saying âÂÂPremier League survival is more important than the FA Cup.â ItâÂÂs not. Winning the FA Cup is the best thing that can happen to a fan.
"I remember the 1975 FA Cup final and the 1980 final better than any other moment as a West Ham fan. Do people look back in 30 years and say: âÂÂRemember that season when we came 15th, that was a season and a half.â Or do they say, âÂÂRemember when we won the FA Cup?â Nobody cheers a balance sheet or puts it on an open top bus.
"ThereâÂÂs no prospect of United becoming Leeds United so why the worry? YouâÂÂve just won the f*cking European Cup and the league.
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"WeâÂÂve got a bloke at West Ham who had money and now it seems that heâÂÂs potless. ThatâÂÂs the way the cookie crumbles. What am I going to do, support a different club? I cheer the team and boo the team, thatâÂÂs what supporters do.âÂÂ
Bryan, Avram and Joel observe
I like Samuel and heâÂÂs a superb writer. But I donâÂÂt agree with him.
Despite recent pieces by David Conn, Des Kelly and Henry Winter pointing out the contrary, the view about the Glazers being the perfect owners is gaining worrying currency, as much among United fans as outsiders.
90 percent of match going United fans have no interest in the owners of the club. As long as the team are winning, nothing else matters. That figure is close to 100 percent among the millions around the world who donâÂÂt go to matches.
Of those who are more interested, thereâÂÂs swelling opinion that the debt is not an issue, itâÂÂs just the way business works. And if you donâÂÂt like the ticket prices, tough, thereâÂÂll always be someone else to take your place.
Well weâÂÂll see, but IâÂÂm not convinced.
I spoke to the former chief executive of a major bank recently. HeâÂÂs a football fan and I wanted his view.
âÂÂThey (the Glazers) have done nothing wrong,â he said. âÂÂWhat they did happens in business all the time. What matters is their ability to pay the loans and they are doing that.âÂÂ
The conversation depressed me, yet there are plenty who shrug their shoulders and say: âÂÂItâÂÂs Manchester United, weâÂÂll be alright.âÂÂ
Maybe United will, but the clubâÂÂs holding company recently posted an annual pre-tax loss of ã44.8 million, that after the most successful financial season in the clubâÂÂs history.
Rising ticket prices, commercial deals, on the field success and television money all helped UnitedâÂÂs turnover to a massive ã256m, yet the club are sitting on a rising debt of ã699m.
Before the repayments, United made ã66m, but that was wiped out by the interest payments and unless the club refinance, United have to pay back ã1.1 billion in the next nine years.
Under the current lending terms, thatâÂÂs ã75m in 2013, ã150m in 2014, ã150m in 2015, ã150m in 2016 and a final payment of ã600m in 2017.
Opinion remains very much split
You wonâÂÂt find any dissenting voices from those within the club. If fact you wonâÂÂt find any because United have refused to comment on the latest figures to journalists.
The Glazers too have refused to do interviews in the four years since they took over the club. They have a public relations man on the payroll who is based in England. What, exactly, does he do about from say âÂÂno commentâÂÂ?
Sir Alex Ferguson has described them as âÂÂterrific ownersâ and that, sadly, is good enough for most fans. His justification was based on a lack of interference and the fact that compared to the abomination that is Hicks and Gillett at Anfield, the Glazers could be worse.
Last summer, I received a text. It was from someone who was about to meet one of the Glazers. Was there anything that IâÂÂd like to pass on to that particular brother? There was and it was very strongly worded.
âÂÂConsider it done,â came the reply. I never heard any more.
The Glazers were not needed any more than they were wanted. United were the most profitable club in the world, respected for their commercial acumen and virtually peerless on and off the field.
They will probably re-finance until they sell Manchester United for profit, having maintained the increase in revenues which attracted them in the first place.
Except debt, theyâÂÂve added absolutely nothing to Manchester United and taken much away. And if they get away with it, theyâÂÂll have one person to thank above all others. And heâÂÂs from a lot closer to Mount Florida than Florida.
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Andy Mitten is Editor at Large of FourFourTwo, interviewing the likes of Lionel Messi, Eric Cantona, Sir Alex Ferguson and Diego Maradona for the magazine. He also founded and is editor of United We Stand, the Manchester United fanzine, and contributes to a number of publications, including GQ, the BBC and The Athletic.